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East West Hollywood Orchestral Series 'Lord of the Rings' Demo

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A short demo of music from 'Lord of the Rings' by Howard Shore This original music was composed by Howard Shore. MIDI Orchestration in this Demo by Andy Barraclough. Software Used; Cubase 7 East West Hollywood Orchestral Woodwinds Diamond East West Hollywood Strings Diamond East West Hollywood Brass Diamond Quantum Leap Spaces Reverb Plugin All Rights Reserved - Lord Of The Rings
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Zahari Shtonov (9 days ago)
Well done, Sir!
NETIO SYS (14 days ago)
And here I'm sitting with my DSK brass plugin wondering what to do with my life
ToastedCigar (6 months ago)
This is incredibly well done. I bet that an average-listener could never tell that it isn't a real orchestra playing here.
SoyishK (8 months ago)
real orchestra is still betr, lol nice mock up!!!
Alex Sumoski (11 months ago)
It doesn't sound even close to this for real, I have no idea what they did to get it this nice sounding
Andrew Todd Rosenthal (1 year ago)
WEHO Halloween Carnaval https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxiRmdrkG3A&feature=youtu.be
okolekahuna (1 year ago)
Just because of this demo, I purchased the gold version. Awesome!
Patrik Blomberg (1 year ago)
I was hoping someone someone could help me. I'm writing music in Guitar Pro 5 and I write a lot of orchestral pieces. What I do after I write is export the gp5 file to a .midi file and then import it to my DAW (Mixcraft ). Will I be able to just choose this as a VST in Mixcraft? I mean, will I find EW in my DAW or do I need another program to make my .midi strings sound like this?
frank (1 year ago)
did you quantise the notes or sequenced them live? how did you get the legatos to sound so smooth?
Johann Sebastian Bach (1 year ago)
How long do you work on the MIDI automation etc?
Craig Harrison (1 year ago)
Bryce Francis (2 years ago)
Hi how do you use spaces ? what setup do you run in terms of buses etc ?
Andy Barraclough (1 year ago)
Yes I use spaces, have 20-40 instances of spaces set up through groups in Cubase.
Manuel Do souto (2 years ago)
Kyle Hottel (2 years ago)
It's so very hard to sequence libraries to sound this realistic. Bravo!
Markus Binder (2 years ago)
Hi, what instrument setup have you used? Sounds really amazing. Is there any chance to get some details of the track setups?
Benny Griswold (2 years ago)
I don't understand how you got the strings to sound so precise as they pass through notes. My Hollywood Strings slur so much that it's just a blurry mess.
His Fluffiness (1 year ago)
It has nothing to do with the fact that he used the Diamond version. Gold has all the articulations that Diamond has, the only difference being that it does only come with one mic position and only 16-bit samples.
Eddy Bodié (2 years ago)
He has the diamond orchestra not gold or anything else
Ozgun Guney (2 years ago)
Ahmed Raza (2 years ago)
this is fucking awesome man
Juancho661 (2 years ago)
Do all these come in a Bundle? If they do how much is it, or how does these libraries work when buying them? Also, are they with Kontakt player or stand alones?
Andy Barraclough (2 years ago)
+juancho661 No they are in East West's Play Engine, not Kontakt. They can be purchased here http://www.soundsonline.com
Felix J Music (2 years ago)
Not sure if copy/pasted the OST or just a talented composer. +1
Andy Barraclough (2 years ago)
+xet449 Thank you very much
thomas vinelli (2 years ago)
How you deal with mix eq, reverbs to get that cinematic sound.
Andy Barraclough (2 years ago)
+thomas vinelli I use UAD's SSL Channel for EQ, UAD SSL Bus Compressor for Groups and Stereo Channels and QL Spaces for Reverb. I then pan to taste.
Jason Swanson (3 years ago)
Wow. wow. wow.
Julian Gray Media (3 years ago)
one of the most amazing covers ive ever heard in ewql. what daw are you in?
John Michael Stock (11 months ago)
In this case the DAW makes very little difference, they would be equally good. It's all about the EastWest Hollywood Orchestra and the person putting it all together.
Andrew Barraclough (3 years ago)
+Julian Gray Media Thank you, Cubase 7.5. There are more demo's on my soundcloud account if your interested. I list all the technical specifications underneath in the description of each track. Please feel free to ask any specific questions in a private message and i'll try to reply ASAP. https://soundcloud.com/andybarraclough
Kenny Lee (3 years ago)
really great. Whats even greater is you can get this whole orchestra for $599 now!Over 600gigs of samples!
Captain Crazy (3 years ago)
Almost as pro as me pal!  Keep it up!!
Nick Bowe (3 years ago)
That is insane! I'm only getting back to music production after ten years and this is incredible how realistic orchestral sounds have become.
MultiMusic (2 years ago)
Ah that's actually kind of moving. :) It is like you've came back from a huge journey and... Okay I'll stop xD
I want this so badly lol
Steven Stevensen (4 years ago)
Well, these samples are recorded with a real orchestra. They are not simulated. That's why it sounds so real. And that's why I bought this stuff as well and was amazed that now my compositions sound real
dirty harry1881 (3 years ago)
+I-Love-Music  Probably but also more expensive. You can also make things sound more realistic by playing the phrases on a keyboard and only then correcting mistakes via MIDI. You could make it sound even more realistic than in this example. Also: As long as you listen to music at home the difference will always get smaller and smaller. Samples do not emulate a live violin or a live orchestra but a recorded one, so the space factor does not really matter. Given the time and CPU power you can make even Hollywood Strings fool a maestro.
xXDragonTribalXx (3 years ago)
+I-Love-Music It is infact very possible to programm around 90 % of that into but it takes insane amounts of time and skill (with a DAW and Kontakt itself probably) It is standart use for any kind of comercials but even some lower production cost films use this (and music ofc) pretty much anyone who doesn't need the real thing or just blasts out theese things without the cost of the studio and musicians
I-Love-Music (4 years ago)
Oh Boy, Its still not real...! Cause its impossible to record all Situations/Randoms of Articulations and the Space between and so on... So the perfect Strings are still not available. Berlin Strings are better.
KotKa SVB (4 years ago)
Very nice sounds... do you use Protools or Cubase?
Andy Barraclough (1 year ago)
parademics (4 years ago)
really good mock-up!
MrZayada (4 years ago)
Great, man !!!very good mixing and mastering !!! "Quantum Leap Spaces Reverb" is impressive but plz can you tell me, if you used any other effect on this ??!!! it sounds very real !!
Andy Barraclough (4 years ago)
No other effects, just Spaces, bit of panning & levelling :)  
Jim Bond (4 years ago)
This is great, but if you can't hear a big difference between this and the original...
Jim Bond (4 years ago)
That's for sure, around 1:30 was terribly mixed, which doesn't help any. Excellent result for samples though.
Martin Lubczyk (4 years ago)
a walkthrough ur session would be amazing :-) very good job!
Andrew Barraclough (3 years ago)
+Aztechnological Yes I do
Aztechnological (4 years ago)
+Andrew Barraclough Do you have Hollywood Strings Diamond edition?
Andrew Barraclough (4 years ago)
Thank You :) 
John Stuart (4 years ago)
This is so freaking inspiring. Listening to this has seriously made my day and put a smile on my face. The fact that for a few hundred bucks someone can sit down at a computer in their bedroom and produce something that sounds so realistic is mind-boggling. I hate people who denounce electronic music and the like. Computers are doing amazing things these days. Believe me, I can tell that it's not a live orchestra, but the fact is, even though it's not 100% lifelike, for a computer it sounds fantastic and it's enough to be able to enjoy and appreciate the music. This is truly inspirational. The common man now has access to tools previously unthinkable and it can only result in more fantastic music by people who otherwise might never have had a chance to get their music out there. Well done, and thank you.
The Geat (1 year ago)
John Stuart I think Hans Zimmer said his favorite instrument is the computer.
DaveDexterMusic (4 years ago)
A few thousand bucks to really nail it but yeah, the principle is astounding.
WORSHIP RESOUNDS (4 years ago)
All that is lacking is better reverb programming and this would basically be the real thing.
Andy Barraclough (4 years ago)
+TheGrandBrand This software isn't really designed to replace orchestras, if anything it promotes it. 
TheGrandBrand (4 years ago)
No, the way strings play, for instance (they're very audible as in any orchestra), is very flat, unarticulated. It sounds good, but the gap is still huge, honestly! Just listen to any good recording of a classical symphony played by skilled musicians.
ShieldZone (4 years ago)
super ta série! (very good brass)
Jeremy Wiebe Composer (4 years ago)
Really great work, Andrew! What kind of comp specs do you run HS on?
Darth Schumy (2 years ago)
+Andy Barraclough Thanks for that info. I believe Windows 8.1 (my current OS) has a similar built-in feature to Junction Link Magic, which I'll read up on.  The only fast drive I have is a Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD for my OS, connected to a X79 (Socket 2011) machine running 64MB of RAM, with an i7-3930k 3.2GHz CPU.  I am looking to invest in a few SSD type drives (for sound libraries) shortly, but I'd like to ask what you would recommend, before I do.  How did your above listed EVO 840 SSD setup etc., handle the demands of your compositions and demonstrations?  Were you forced to bounce/freeze tracks constantly to cope, or was the limit of your RAM and drive streaming more than adequate?  I'm coming from a position of zero experience with DAWs, so I'm looking to use your above drive setup, as the basis for my hardware plans.  I was thinking of using an Intel 750 PCI-E 1.2TB SSD, like how you used the OCZ Revodrive (i.e. for more demanding streams) and the current Samsung 850 EVO SATA SSD's for less demanding VST's. Do you feel the Intel SSD is overkill (read speeds of 2500 MB/s, etc) or have you found there is no overkill with DAW libraries?.... Lol!
Andy Barraclough (2 years ago)
+Darth Schumy Thank you very much. I use Junction Magic to split the libraries across drives (http://www.rekenwonder.com/linkmagic.htm)
Darth Schumy (2 years ago)
+Andy Barraclough Quite simply, the finest demonstration of sound library use I've seen—just sublime!  I was looking for a library to purchase and I haven't seen anything that leapt out at me till now.  After hearing what you accomplished with the Hollywood Orchestra I bought the product.  Your work is wonderful to hear.  I suspect the reason it is so good, is not because of the product (although it is necessary ingredient), but primarily because of your skill and commitment levels.  Well done!  I am curious as to how you split the Strings library across two separate drives.  The Hollywood Strings is much larger than the other sections and demanding to stream as a consequence.  The EWQL Install Centre doesn't allow you to split the location of the String Installation, so I was wondering how you accomplished this?
Jeremy Wiebe Composer (3 years ago)
Would be fine. I'd recommend an SSD for faster load times.
Joel Michael (3 years ago)
+Jeremy Wiebe how would these run directly from the drive they come on and with 24GB of RAM
FelpHero (4 years ago)
This is fucked up, why do we even need orchestras anymore? this is madness, this is Sparta madness
Joshua Gardner (1 year ago)
Worth noting as well, you need to be both a composer and a sound engineer these days. You need at least $2000 in hardware (a relatively high end PC (as fast as you can afford), mixer, studio speakers, midi keyboard controller), double that price if you need to do 5.1 surround mixing. Now start adding software. Cubase, digital performer, pro tools, logic pro (mac only) these are all pricey, ranging from $300-$1000. Then you need sound effect engines (reverb, delay, compression, EQ, software surround mixer) which can vary in price for each from little to $1000 for each, depending on what you buy. Then we get to the soundfonts themselves, which are usually around $15,000 for each complete library (tho many dont buy complete libraries, they purchase bits and pieces). The top libraries as far as popularity for sound track scoring would probably be Vienna Symphonic Library (my personal favourite because their philosophy is to record everything with no reverb (dry) to allow the composer to add exactly what the composer wants - plus their MIR (what they call their reverb engine) is incredible, EastWest, Cinesamples, Spitfire and perhaps orchestral tools (specifically Berlin Brass), although there are a HUGE number of them out there that I simply dont have the time or money to list. The bottom line is, this stuff is more accessible than ever before. It is cheaper than it has ever been. You put these soundtracks played with soundfonts to a film or game and with everything going on the screen, no normal person would hear the difference. The only time youd hear a difference, and a subtle one at that (if the composer has taken enough time to polish the recording using correct articulations and really working on all the notation) is if you were to do an a,b comparison with nothing else to focus on. Accessibility however has its draw backs, its now so easy to get into that it has become very competitive. Only the greats have a chance of making enough money to purchase all the hardware, software, and soundfonts they could ever want, the rest of peons slowly built our libraries and dream to one day own all the bits.
Joshua Gardner (1 year ago)
Vienna Symphonic Library (around $15,00 for their entire library and software collection) has these subtle flaws built in to account for human error. Specifically, look at Vienna Instruments Pro on Youtube, look at the humanization feature. Also, look into the sample music on their site (there is a TON of sample music from their libraries).
Rohann van Rensburg (1 year ago)
+Manas It's certainly true that live orchestras have the distinct advantage of playing together and feeding off one another. Some things will never sound as good as with a live orchestra, but listen to the Skyrim soundtrack or demos for Cinematic Studio Strings (or Spitfire's Chamber Strings). They're awfully close. Regardless of sound, I think I'll always be in favour of getting players work because it's integral to supporting to life of music.
Manas (1 year ago)
No... don't get me wrong, I wish this was true. But lately I've experienced the polar opposite. Through research I just realized most of my favorite game songs that legitimately awed me were live performed ones... and I didn't even know. It made me admit that there is this special something that moves me in real orchestras which vsts have yet to grasp. It's sad because I can't purchase an entire orchestra (let alone eastwest) but now that I can hear the difference I'm afraid we're not even that close... yet.
Rohann van Rensburg (1 year ago)
It's gotten really close, but why do we need orchestras? Because the subtle differences that make an orchestral score sound magical, as opposed to great, come from the subtle flaws and human characteristics in playing. Not to mention it supports music/musicians. Even really great scores composed with amazing virtual instruments lack the subtle character of real-life recordings. This recording sounds fantastic, but it lacks the depth of subtlety that the original score has. Maybe not noticeable to the average listener though, at least not at first.
Francis Hehle (4 years ago)
There is no way I could tell this is not a real orchestra playing. Good job
SoyishK (8 months ago)
chiffmonkey (4 years ago)
+Francis Hehle There's a certain stiff regularity to virtual instruments, and although at first impression you might mistake this for a real orchestra, once you hear the stiffness you can't un-hear it as being synthetic. That being said the average music listener won't even notice if you switch an oboe for a bassoon. :P
Andrew Barraclough (4 years ago)
Thank You :) 
Francis Hehle (3 years ago)
... and I bet the only person who disliked this is a musician who unfortunately lost his job because of those amazing plugins
Fred Fightfart (4 years ago)
what did you take for the harp and the percussion (especially the low "boom")
Sonny Williamson (4 years ago)
It just blows my mind how far we have come. The fidelity is just incredible. 
Andrew Barraclough (5 years ago)
Thank you :). In this piece im using Strings (Close, Mid, Main, Surround) - Brass (Mid, Main, Surround) - Woodwind (Close, Mid, Main). It depends on the piece of music which i use. But this is usually what I use.
Andrew Barraclough (5 years ago)
if you have a rather powerful system id recommend Hollywood by Far, but if its an low to average system id stick with symphonic orchestra. Hollywood is very taxing on CPU and RAM and Hard Disk.
Sean Beeson (5 years ago)
Fantastic work Andrew!! I am a fan :D What mic positions do you like from the strings, brass, and winds?
Andrew Barraclough (5 years ago)
Hollywood Strings is very superior to EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Strings. But the EWQL Strings are great, but Hollywood Strings are just amazing.
Grady Klein (5 years ago)
EWQL is the production name. Hollywood Strings is a section of the Hollywood Series of instruments from East West. The Hollywood Series, I suppose you could say, is collection of highest quality VST's from East West, and I must say probably the best in all (Though that's just my opinion)
Amazingly real and accurate cover of one of the most beautiful works. Very well done!!
Andy Barraclough (5 years ago)
Cheers :)
JACompositions (5 years ago)
Fantastic work Andy :)
Andrew Barraclough (5 years ago)
Thanks :)
Andrew Barraclough (5 years ago)
Thankyou :)
Jeremy Wiebe Composer (5 years ago)
Awesome job! Sounds very close to the original.

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