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USS Caron getting rammed by the Russians in the Black Sea - Feb 1988

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In February 1988, Caron operating with Yorktown, entered Soviet 7 miles ) territorial waters limit in the Black Sea off the Crimean Peninsula. Under international law, this act could be permissible if the ship was progressing from one point in international waters to another point in international waters via the shortest course possible, but according to the Soviet Union, it was the right of the USSR to authorize or prohibit travel in selected areas within the 12 mile limit. The United States however did not recognize the Soviet's claim in this case. To prevent it from becoming accepted precedent, the US Navy claimed that it had sailed warships through such areas at regular intervals in the past, which we had, not just two years prior. On this occasion, Caron had onboard a ships signal exploitation spaces system, operated by a crew of 18 in support of the U.S. National Security Agency. This system was capable of recording data on Soviet defense radars and communications. In response, the Soviets deployed a destroyer and a Mirka II class light frigate as well as a KGB and "civilian" ships to intercept the U.S. ships. Several times, Soviet vessels obtained radar "lock" on the Caron and Yorktown. Both American ships maintained a constant course and speed throughout the incident. Eventually, the Soviets lightly rammed both ships. No significant damage resulted to any of the ships involved. Both US warships sent an account of the incident to the Commander in Chief of United States Naval Forces in Europe. The Caron reported at 13:20 local time, it was informed on channel 16 VHF by the Bezzavetny: "Soviet ships have orders to prevent violation of territorial waters, extreme measure is to strike your ship with one of ours."[1] The reply of the Caron was "I am engaged in innocent passage consistent with international law."[1] The Yorktown, in its report stated that on 9:56, local time, it was contacted by the Bezzavetny via channel 16 and told to leave Soviet territorial waters or "our ship is going to strike on yours."[1] Then, according to the report, the Bezzavetny came alongside port side of the Yorktown at 10:03 and bumped it by turning into the ship.[1] As for the music, take note that this was shot on VHS and back in 1988, when we did not have Youtube. The only people we thought would see this was friends and family, not a bunch of people from all over the world. No the music is not masking the screams from the crew on the USS Caron, so if you don't like it, there is a volume button - use it Also check out the video from the USS Yorktown at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SME4w037FgA This is the video that the Russian news showed on the 10th Anniversary - All I can say is I can't believe that the Russian people believed and animated version of what happened over the real tape. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dl_WNdiShs&list=FLq9THf99pIznRTXM7P8JIWw&index=54 Also the video the Russians did on the 25th anniversary - They asked me for an interview and I declined for the very reason I that I knew they would not portray it accurately and they didn't let me down http://www.tvc.ru/showspecrep.aspx?id=e1564dbe-d8e8-4ba2-a142-218db8a6e14c Here is the Russians account of what happened http://fishki.net/19391-stalnye-jajca-sovetskogo-flota-9-foto--3-video.html
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Jannib Andelo Bayutas (22 hours ago)
From which ship does the "Back In The USSR" tune coming from? 😂
stealthbiker45 (8 hours ago)
Its actually just on the video, not playing over the 1MC
Moth (1 day ago)
Oh, wow the music is awful.
Superman Sixty9 (2 days ago)
Let them try it now see what happens 🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Richard W. Sharpe (3 days ago)
So why did the USA navy sink that ship . If I was captain of the ship I would of sunk that ship no problem and it would not happen again
stealthbiker45 (13 hours ago)
year sure you would've - 7 miles off of the coast of Russia, surrounded by all of their ships, aircraft etc. you would've killed your whole crew and started WW3
John Lavezzorio (3 days ago)
Time to sink these Thugs! Then use them as floating targets!
Alan Murphy (4 days ago)
Where's the cops when you need them
fuck americunt;s
Clarence Snyder (5 days ago)
With all the reds being drunk all the time its no wonder, they drive their cars like this as well.
Ronald Harback (5 days ago)
Dushan. Well that's trump for you. He owns so much to the Russians he will let them do anything they want to.
stealthbiker45 (13 hours ago)
You failed history didn't you? Trump wasn't President back in the 80's. Hire a tutor
J H Spain. (5 days ago)
And again we do nothing
DataWaveTaGo (5 days ago)
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But at this point the Putin_effect has taken hold.
Dennis SR (5 days ago)
Who am I? HUH?(rhetorical)..."look! ALL my ouraged crap matters! Yeah, well ver! We HAVE been jerks to Russia surrounding them w/free trade NATO brings into enhancing defense...LETS RAM EM!! We'll get a metal for this! Those good ol' Putin types aint to bad*
Kit Carr (6 days ago)
Wonders out loud 'Have the Chinese Navy seen this... might be useful response to a certain parties' freedon of navigation' sorties ????' It's a bit like the 'pitting' manouvre used by US traffic cops
Joseph Feinburg (6 days ago)
When I was on the USS MOALE DD-693 we had the same thing happen, but our Captain had us dump trash over our side and the Russian ship immediately pulled away from us.
Joseph Feinburg (6 days ago)
The captain of the US ship could have the crew collect all of its trash and when the Russian ship got along side the trash should have been dumped so it could have been sucked up into the Russian ships cooling intake pipes to mess up its machinery which is cooled by sea water. This was the mistake by the US captain.
Eric Latreille (6 days ago)
Dumb russians!
at the bridge tape why was there a black ship following it?
i like how when the russians ram the americans no fucks are givin but when the chinese ram every one says fuck china
Stanley Holmes (7 days ago)
Russian Navy is a farce. This is simply a drunk Russian Capt. Typical.
DataWaveTaGo (6 days ago)
Yup!
robert johns (7 days ago)
lmaoo i could imagine the russian caption yelling at his crew to go faster then when hit all shit themselves as their ship tips an have that oh fuck we are stuck look on their faces.. lol russian retarded dickheads lmaoo... the USA ship didn't even move or shake...
kev lar (7 days ago)
The Russian's will say that the United States destroyer rammed them.🤔
Jannib Andelo Bayutas (22 hours ago)
Now this is funny.
DushanGrujich (5 days ago)
Yes, and americans will say that Russians were in american territorial waters.
johnny flodder (7 days ago)
Watch my paint russian assholes
Ronald Harback (9 days ago)
Why didn't just sink them as an act of war. Oh that's right, puten did not give trump their permission!
DushanGrujich (12 hours ago)
+stealthbiker45 And you think you are smart...
stealthbiker45 (13 hours ago)
You failed history didn't you? Trump wasn't President back then in the 80's. Thanks for playing, please try again
DushanGrujich (5 days ago)
Curious, isn't it? After all Russians sailed in american territorial waters, spying on america.
granskare (9 days ago)
a few shells will keep him away. think of him as a pirate...russkis have always wanted the black sea and control of the straits. I served in Turkey in the late 1950's.
Joanne Mercader (9 days ago)
I'm not sure what this is about. Anything remotely close to the truth?
DataWaveTaGo (6 days ago)
Only your lying eyes can tell.
Andy Dean (9 days ago)
Can someone explain the music?
Bulle (9 days ago)
Stay in your waters Yanks, what would the US do, if Russia did the same among their coasts?
James Heraty (9 days ago)
Outside of territorial and exclusive economic zone waters, all oceans are international waters. Just like airspace. I regularly see stories of Russian TU-160's flying within 12 nautical miles of the US border. Actually, the US and Russia are part of a the Open Skies Treaty, which allows us to fly (unarmed) reconnaissance planes over each other's most sensitive military installations.
NICKOLAY MILTENOV (9 days ago)
WTF cowbreeders are looking for in the Black Sea. Their mother's pussy probably.
dr1flush (10 days ago)
9:01 .... until he got rammed by Russian ship
Carolina Trucker (10 days ago)
All this debate on whether it was intentional or an accident. The only people who will ever know is the people who were on the bridge of the Russian vessel. Honestly it doesn’t matter which it was, it was poor strategy, seamanship, and military command on BOTH sides. The Russians should’ve never got that close and the Americans should have never let them get that close. Steer away, plot a new course , slow down, speed up, whatever works. They were not at war in the physical sense and they put everyone’s lives in danger by doing this or letting it happen. Not to mention millions of dollars worth of military equipment. How would they have felt if one of the Harpoon missles in the back of the US boat had ignited and blown a hole in their ship or munitions magazine? Likewise if it had blown up the US boat? They would have started a war. And don’t get it twisted I’m all about war when it’s necessary and then it’s kill em all let god sort em out and stand your ground no matter what, but this was, at best, to try to prove a point. Prob much more of a dick measuring contest than anything. And for what? All the lives on board aren’t worth more than someone’s pride?
falconeaterf15 (11 days ago)
Russians were actually towing a water skier and did not have a proper spotter. Helmsman focused on water skier instead of where ship was headed and collided with picture taking Yankees. They should get a ticket.
Indrid Cold (11 days ago)
The United States of America had the Iowa class battle ships still active back then. The should have set an Iowa class to make the crossing. I am sure the Russians would not have bumped one of those super thick vessels. It would have wrecked their destroyers. Russians and Americans are interesting. They are advisaries until they need to be allies. They will never attack each other. They just snarl at each other in a rather semi respectful manner. They are the big wolves in the pack. They will snarl at each other but not risk getting hurt by the other.
Bobr r (11 days ago)
WTF!
Michael Menges (12 days ago)
Why the fuck wasn't this consider an act of war giving USA full rights to open fire on these bulshavik cocksuckers?
William Killen (6 days ago)
Sounds fair , and far eastern countries should be attacking USN ships for ramming their civilian ships .
hans mair (12 days ago)
Gorrila Putin zeigt seine Kultur + seine Groesse winzig keit ! Armes Russland !
A.N. Other (5 days ago)
Was soll dieser Kommentar über ein 30 Jahre altes Video??? Thema verfehlt. 6. Setzen.
Glenn Whitfield (12 days ago)
Blow the fuckers out off the water. Rules for USA Captains state that they have the discretion to do so.
Why dfidn't russians open fire over this criminals?
CK Årsta Evil Memil (13 days ago)
I guess that proves a Soviet warship could damage a US naval vessel after all...
Boss Dog (14 days ago)
Pitt manouver only works on land........When I was in the Navy in the mid eighties it was common knowledge that the Ruskies and the Yanks scraped sides on occasion.......Where's the L plates?
Naval Supremacy (14 days ago)
Notice the US doesn’t have a fit when the Russians have a sub on their coast they don’t try to divert it because they aren’t scared.
Hiram Eberhardt (15 days ago)
A few years later there were NO CCCP.......collapse just like Humpty Dumpty
Jimson brown (15 days ago)
Damn those Russian tubs were ugly. Did the Russians ever build anything remotely good looking?
Dwayne Lent (15 days ago)
Fuck dummys didnt even move it at all...clowns
Jack Lizzard (16 days ago)
USS Caron getting rammed by the Russians in the Black Sea - Feb 1988 -------------------------------- USS Caron being rammed by the Russians in the Black Sea - Feb 1988
Julian Bloemhard (16 days ago)
that music suck ass back in the ussair fuck
3DManShadowland (17 days ago)
Don’t know why they didn’t put them at the bottom of the ocean before they got that close!
Jim Chiro (17 days ago)
What fuck they want? i think they want ass whooping.✌🤙
Peter Palmer (17 days ago)
Blow those Russians out of the water. Incursions on US naval ships is very serious and demand a very serious response.
My name is mudd (16 days ago)
Design and fit directional boomsticks to the side. Doesn't necessarily need to go thru the hull lots of windows and electronics on top. It will be the aggressor causing detonation and damage to their own ship. It would be like saying here's some ordinance, wanna bite of this sandwich!? If they take a bite and lose some teeth, who's fault will that be? Those boats aren't toy's and while I don't condone violence. I don't condone bully's either. Only way to take out a bully is to stand your ground.
Ogen De Witt (17 days ago)
What american shit forget in Black sea?
Rabid Farmer (18 days ago)
We can start a war and make it look like it is your fault. LOL
Peppermint Catsass (18 days ago)
Shoulda brake checked there ass!
_ DU_NUT_TUCH_ME _ (18 days ago)
Because USS Carol stole his vodka and Hardbass sound systems.
Nita Elisabeta (12 days ago)
. Mc ...
Maxeplistlugp Santos (17 days ago)
oHhhhhhhHh NoOoOOooo
Paige Hawkins (18 days ago)
Man I don’t get it. I would’ve blown enough holes through the hull that it would resemble a fly swatter.
Meowke . (16 days ago)
Paige Hawkins in which ship
Cold Beer (20 days ago)
Russian ships always look beat down.
Bob Doom (21 days ago)
Hardly ramming more like a kiss
This is not a complete video. Russian ship picked up speed and flew nose on the deck of an American. Broke missiles and antenna on the American ship. Russia is a big egg. America is small eggs. Russians are wars. Americans are gay.
+stealthbiker45 После этого варианта, 26 лет южноамериканские корабли не подходили к Крыму поближе чем на 280 км.
stealthbiker45 (22 days ago)
your right, this isnt the whole video. It then cuts into a scene with all of the American sailors tag teaming your mom and she yelled the Star Spangled Banner
MrTcp01 (24 days ago)
An American classic “ back in the uss...air”
Trip'n 007 (29 days ago)
WHITESNAKE
Vendal 84 (30 days ago)
ну-ка а вот то что он делал не лишь навал а один пошел на таран в борт и смел там вертолетную палубу конечно повредил торпедную установку класса гарпун никто что то не показал. Стыдно видимо
Jason. Madara (1 month ago)
By the way thats a nudge nit a ram a ram is head in to another
robert larsen (1 month ago)
Yenki gettin overhauled by russian corvette
G Froese (1 month ago)
I just watched this old vid and laughed , but then I thought , What would the USA do if a pair of Russian warships were 6 or 7 miles off the US coast ? Ya right .
stealthbiker45 (1 month ago)
Actually it was quite common back then, especially with submarines
Jason. Madara (1 month ago)
They was when rhey hacked the election lmao
C s (1 month ago)
Why didn't we blow it out of the water? That was an act of war.
Insurrection Struggle (1 month ago)
C s The US was on Soviet territory you dumbass,
classic (1 month ago)
Моська желала заскочить на слона? Засранцы! А чрез 3 года СССР упал.
DimaFromRussia1 (13 hours ago)
ты полный ролик не лицезрел болтун)))
Привет от матушки РОССИИ.
Eddie Piecart (1 month ago)
Russia kicking US arse. Keep up the good work.
DUVO Bikes (1 month ago)
Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ltAJ4sTAo&feature=youtu.be
Хорошо подправили причёсок. Подрихтовали классно. Молодцы!
google account (1 month ago)
russia is tough it will bitch slap usa,,,, we know that in mexico were with you russia just dont launch icbm and kill mexicans were too near usa, relax russian bear.....russia if you do attack usa give us half our territory we lost and call us russians....usa is a stinking turd
Francesco Buccino (1 month ago)
Bastard yenkees! Born on the genocide of natives.the only country dropping an atomic bomb over civilians, and still no calling as a war criminal the bastatds president who made that. 55milion people killed AFTER the 2ww (figures not by a Russian but by the American Chomsky). From Vietnam to Iraq Syria libia still in charge killing stealing raping. The most criminal country in the history of humanity
DushanGrujich (5 days ago)
Yes, but only second in line after pommies
Пиндосы хй
Manuel Salazar (1 month ago)
Wellll welll ....2018- 2020 ill like to see that today ...MAGA ....
Ibrahim Incesu (1 month ago)
Because Usa thinks they own the world you enter Russian territorial waters you will see your ass .. hollywood makes great movies but reality will be hurtful..
Eric Larrivee (1 month ago)
That music sucks 😝
Eric Tesson (1 month ago)
Obama was President he probably called Putin and said sorry for making you have to Ram our ship here's a pallet full of cash that make it better now that trumps president let him Ram our ship will sink their ship
DushanGrujich (5 days ago)
+stealthbiker45 A very sorry life, judging by the comments you make, I would say!
stealthbiker45 (1 month ago)
+Eric Tesson you can't offend me, its been tried, unsuccessfully. Like I said i was just responding to the original post and when you are posting onto a site that has over 4 million hits, you might want to scan before you hit send. Oh, and I have a life, thank you very much.
Eric Tesson (1 month ago)
When you don't have much time and you're really busy at work and you're talking into a speaker sometimes it doesn't come out just the way you like it so I'm sorry if I offended you for not proper grammar get a life
stealthbiker45 (1 month ago)
+Eric Tesson if you did so well in school, then you would've phrased your statement properly. You are making a statement that Obama was President, not saying "if". I can only work with what I see. My political affiliation has nothing to do with my ability to read your statement and respond to it.
Eric Tesson (1 month ago)
I was referring to if Obama was President that's what would have happened a****** I did very well in history thank you I don't need some more on search it through looking for discrepancies to attack people you must be a libtard
bhunep neppoho (1 month ago)
Thats why you dont sneak in others place
lone explorer (1 month ago)
The only two countries American wouldn't storm in to "educate about" or "protect" "democracy" is Russia and China. They know they'll be biting off more than what they can chew.
lone explorer (1 month ago)
You Americans need to tune down. Have some respect for Russian and others. You meddling in the middle East is the reason why you have so many muslims fu**ing you in your house. Don't barge into someone's house and try to democratize their arse or they'll simply return the favor.
Rambhavan Yadav (1 month ago)
poor yank 😂
M.J. Leger (1 month ago)
Disgusting music with a very sober incident.  Shame, shame. Interesting blog though.  Communist countries have violated laws in international waters before, and no doubt will again.  It's what control freaks do!  China has done it in the South China Sea, and the Russians have terrorized American vessels before, so has No. Korea.  Often it looks like they're just itching to start another world war, which would be horrendous!  Japan learned in WWII not to awaken the sleeping giant, others would do well to heed that lesson also!
olly olly (2 months ago)
Go Russia destroy the Zionist curtain
EDER vidz (2 months ago)
Should of shoot this dumb Russians
CoolHandLuke (2 months ago)
Blame the vodka
Allusion (2 months ago)
The Caron should’ve blew they dumbasses up lol😭😭😭
Wesley Hayes (2 months ago)
i was stationed aboard the USS Caron DD970 , from 1977 -82 i made 2 med cruises and we went into the black sea both times
163pete (2 months ago)
What would’ve been funny is if the American destroyer had waited until the Russian ship got close enough to touch! Then stalled it’s engine to bees even with the Russian Troehler and at that point have 50 Americans jump the ship with machine guns and take it. Then Scuttle the Russian boat.” Set the crew on a beach with a cell phone and say later.
Mike Hunt (2 months ago)
Should of sunk that Russian junk!
Redbaron9495 (2 months ago)
Stupid fukking warmongering Americans....always looking for trouble. I wonder how they would have reacted if Russian ships were 10 miles off Florida?
Nathan Peterson (1 month ago)
+Redbaron9495 My mistake I meant the Feburary of '2017. 17nmi. in the contiguous zone.
Redbaron9495 (1 month ago)
+Nathan Peterson I doubt very much it was inside U.S 12 mile territorial waters. The article says it was 30 miles out....so that is International waters https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-spy-ship-us-submarine-base-2017-2?r=US&IR=T
Nathan Peterson (1 month ago)
+Redbaron9495 January, 2018. The Russian Navy communications ship _Viktor Leonov_ was operating off of the United States Naval Base New London near Groton, CT.
Redbaron9495 (1 month ago)
+Nathan Peterson When were Russian warships or submarines inside U.S territorial waters?
Nathan Peterson (1 month ago)
Not Florida recently, but they have. What nonsense are you on about kid?
patricia craig (2 months ago)
What was that supposed to achieve! Russia has always been a pain in the stern!
John Alexander (2 months ago)
Russia rules, long live Putin ♥️
Oan Simit (2 months ago)
Обосралась СССР обосрётся и Раиссийская Педарасия.
иван усков (2 months ago)
Собака лает а КАРАВАН ИДЕТ
Leonie (2 months ago)
I think the Russians need a bigger boat...smiles They NOT even move the U.S.Navy ship at all, und the smaller Russian vessel kind of bounced off...smiles Bet they have more damage too.
vishal giraddi (2 months ago)
The Soviet captain had consumed too much vodka ;-)
forrest stump (2 months ago)
cap'n crunch
Bobskibrit (2 months ago)
Ohh.... so you say the Black Sea.....sorry, must have misunderstood. I could have sworn the Black Sea was an isolated inland sea, sitting squarely in the backyard of Eastern Europe, bordering Russia directly, accessed only through the Bosporus Straits and containing Sevastopol, still home to the 'Russian Black Sea Fleet'....hmmmm...either my geography is shithouse or these US boys are a little far from home in Europe!!! and kinda asking for trouble being in the Black Sea, bit like the Gulf of Tonkin. Still happening to this day. The US navy has no place being in the Black Sea other than to stir shit and agitate and they are now rebuilding and building up the Romanian naval facilities at the sea port of Constanta so they can have a more permanent presence there. Only one aggressor and provocateur who poses the greatest danger of triggering the next World War and its not Russia or China...notice they kinda for the most part stay in their own backyards....
Jimmy Pea (2 months ago)
What? No baggies of American shit to throw on the Russian deck?
BlackAnvil47 (2 months ago)
You've got Trump administration doing it for Russia
John Public (2 months ago)
You mean the Soviet Union.
conantdog (2 months ago)
America is a culture and economy of death and outright lies .

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